Obama...Where are the JOBS????????

Obama why do you shove Obamacare down the throat of America when most people don't want it? Why no budget in 4 years? Why instead of cutting the deficit in half , like you claimed you would, did you add over $1 trillion for each year you were in office to the debt? Why are there 3,621,000 less people employed right now when compared to November 2007 (despite the population increasing by at least 11 million people since then)?

Empty chair

Republicans..where are the Jobs U promised in 2010?

Obama...Where will all this money come from?

The adding of new jobs puts more tax payers contributing tax dollars. The Obamacare is filled with taxes, fines and cuts that Mitts does not. It also seems a strong military is needed since a week one gets us attacked.

It is a sure bet there will be an actual budget... Obama has not passed a budget yet... He just spends and spends... Did the Federal Government need to grow 25% over the Bush staffing growth. Homeland and the TSA were created under Bush.

Did Obama need to add dozens of new Czars with thousands of new staff?
Did we need tens of thousands do new pages of regulations?

Only if you want to eliminate personal Liberty and control every aspect of of a subjugated people...

small minded: you would really prefer to have a charitable tax credit over a 20% tax reduction? With a 20% tax deduction you can afford to double your charitable donations. That is of course if you are giving for reasons more lofty than a tax deduction. As for the mortgage tax deduction - I would rather be able to sell my house and get rid of my mortgage - but I can't in this horrendous economy. Moreover I would gladly forgo a mortgage tax deduction and be able to keep all of my capital gains on the sale of my house. That will far outstrip the tax deduction. It all comes down to fundamental differences. Conservatives feel that people should be given the right to make their own choices. Liberals like the government telling you what to do with your money. Note, the only reason we have deductions is because the tax code is so onerous we'd all be crushed without deductions. It's like stores that have to offer coupons because their prices are so high. You don't see the dollar store offering coupons. Let the consumer keep his/her hard earned money and have the power to purchase whatever they want with their money - including health care.

He needs ideas, so he asks Romney hoping to get an answer! It's clear this president is NOT WHO WE NEED! My God people, wake up, look at the mess he has made in the last 4 years! God help us all if he gets re-elected! Get your heads out of the sand and wake up. This man is NOT the man we need. Romney is a business man and knows how to balance budgets. I really think he will do a great job. He certainly will be better than our current leader - using that term loosly!

nicely put.

That doesn't qualify as a question when you provide your own answer. If I'm Romney I'm going to tell you to tell your mom to put your chin strap back on before you have another seizure.

Frank, the reason no one can give the details is because it has to be meted out in congress. Cutting taxes absolutely requires cutting spending as well. Romney nor Ryan can give details because of the Members of Congress who will fight over protecting Indian casinos or spotted owls, etc. It is not impossible - unless we don't cut spending, which clearly we must do. By the way - you and your friends, will always be legally able to pay as much tax as you want. You can give all of your money to taxes. No one will stop you. Think of the people however, who cannot afford their tax bill. It is not that people are greedy and want to keep all of their money. It is that they cannot buy their children new tennis shoes because of the crushing tax burden. My friend has been paying a monthly installment loan on his tax bill since 2008. Can you even imagine that? Obama has done nothing to significantly cut individual tax rates and yet he's doubled our deficit so why not give the tax-cut approach a chance. Clearly what Obama is doing is not working. Can we agree on that?

Here's some math see how it adds up. Over 50 years in oil subsidies given for "GREEN JOBS" How many jobs netted from that? Oh that's right the last of the losers closed up couple of hours before the debate. Over nine hundred BILLION gone and this failure wants four more years. That is MATH THAT DOESN'T WORK. Obama criticized Bush for four trillion in eight years yet six trillion in less then four is acceptable. What a hypocrite.

I'm not a Romney fan either. In fact, I voted for Obama in the last election. Unfortunately he's turned into nothing but a Photoshop president. All image and no substance.

@John B
Photoshop or etch a sketch?

It is not nice to call people stupid for voting for someone. I will admit that blacks voting for Obama just because is he black (half-black) are wrong, but not stupid. I would feel the same way if a woman voted for a woman simply because she is a woman. But calling someone stupid in this situation is just being a bully.

BO is a community organizer schmoozing is what he does well. He does not have to say anything.
I would ask...Tell me what you will do differently to be successfull for the next four years?

All Romney has done is propose the same things that caused this country to go under in the first place. Been there done it all Romney.....I realize no one who is not a millionaire will ever benefit from a Republican being in office (oh yeah...that means me).

Sheltrina how about telling us specific things that Romney proposed that won't work rather than repeating Obama's reelection committees soundbites that have no sound basis.

Pam, you may want to watch this, then you can retract your post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related

@Andrew Blawat
A more accurate method shows the following probabilities:
Obama 66% 289.2 electorial votes
Romney 34.0%
Obama popular vote 50.1%
Romney 48.8 %

USA Today: Romney by 5 (up by 4 in battlegrounds)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/

Gallup shows Romney at 56 percent, Obama at 47 percent.

That adds up to 103%! Obviously voter fraud.

Our ships are old so they need to be replaced with new ones which offer new technologically and increased effectiveness. Are you still driving around in a 1990's vehicle?

The average ages of major military platforms today include:

Air Force tactical aircraft: over 20 years old;
Navy and Marine Corps tactical aircraft: over 15 years old;
Army M-113 armored personnel carriers: 27 years old;
Bradley fighting vehicles: 17 years old;
CH-47 Chinook helicopters: nearly 20 years old;
UH-1 Huey helicopters: 35 years old;
Ticonderoga-class cruisers: nearly 20 years old;
P-3C Orion long-range aircraft: almost 25 years old;
B-1 Lancer bomber: over 20 years old;
C-5A Galaxy transport aircraft: 40 years old; and
KC-135 tankers: 44 years old.

For every $1 Obama spends, .60 of it is borrowed from China. How much do you really like Big Bird?

BTW, Where are the JOBS?????

Lissa...ask the Republican where the Jobs are...in 2010 they said if you voted them in they would get us jobs.....all they did is filabuster and go on vacation.....

Andrew, a 1994 Acura legend GS 190,000 miles .Has been well maintained, looks new, and runs great. The same hold true for military equipment that has been well maintained. The B52's are even older. As I said, for such old equipment why are we spending more than the rest of the world on the military? Must be a lot of waste somewhere especially with obsolete weapons systems and lack of accountability of funds. Read President Eisenhower's final farewell speech on the dangers of the Military-Industrial complex, it is available online.

@David
Why want you pay for this large military?

George look up the number 43152 as that was my job in the military. Making homemade bushings by filing down washers for a B-52G throttle tension regulator is not good thing. Even in the late 70's we were cannibalizing parts of of some B52s to make the other B52 mission ready.

Newer equipment is much more advanced than old equipment so a F-22 would have no problem knocking numerous older aircraft out of the sky.

If we had someone like you running things our fighters would be all propeller engined.

Greg The GOP congress has passed more than 30 job bills. The Democrat controled Senate is stopping these bills.

http://www.speaker.gov/general/nearly-30-bipartisan-jobs-bills-await-vote-senate-more-way-0

Russia has reopened its closed down navel bases:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/27/253050/russia-reopens-sovietera-foreign-bases/

Russian warshp building increased:

http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2012-03/renaissance-russian-navy

But I guess it does not matter to you Democrats:

President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.

President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…

President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.

President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

I expect and I hope he values life more than BO... I don't think he will go to bed knowing he has an Ambassador whose life was endanger. He will not pass the buck by saying he had bad intelligence... And he will not skip weeks of Security Briefings leading up to a 9/11 anniversary...

There will not be a bad odor of lies and deception at every turn...

You do realize George that the governments role is to protect the country not financially support the citizens, right? If a woman wants to be that active shall we say (to be kind) she should be able to afford her own contraceptives and if not don't participate. Government should have no place in our personal lives particularly paying for our extra curricular activities!

@Andrew Blawat
Perhaps the government should stop helping support these endeavors.Here is one during the Bush administration.You could call it George W. Bush's and the Republicans' Solyndra, a company called Range Fuels.
Instead of claiming to turn cylindrical solar cells into energy, Range Fuels said it would squeeze fuel out of woodchips. We learned the government has liquidated this failed, heavily subsidized undertaking.
Range Fuels a cellulosic ethanol company backed by as much as $156 million in U.S. loans and grants from President George W. Bush’s administration, is being forced by the government to liquidate its only factory after failing to produce the fuel.
To turn wood chips into ethanol fuel, George W. Bush's Department of Energy in February 2007 announced a $76 million grant to Range Fuels for a cutting-edge refinery. A few months later, the refinery opened in the piney woods of Treutlen County, Ga., as the taxpayers of Georgia piled on another $6 million. In 2008, the ethanol plant was the first beneficiary of the Biorefinery Assistance Program, pocketing a loan for $80 million guaranteed by the U.S. taxpayers.

Republicans who have lathered the subsidies on Soperton and celebrated them -- Gov. Perdue, President Bush, Sens. Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss.

When compared to Obama's list of "Green Energy" failures Bush's expenditures were minimal.

• Raser Technologies. In 2010, the Obama administration gave Raser a $33 million taxpayer-funded grant to build a power plant in Beaver Creek, Utah. According to the Wall Street Journal, after burning through our tax dollars, the company filed for bankruptcy protection this year. The plant has fewer than 10 employees, and Raser owes $1.5 million in back taxes.

• ECOtality. The Obama administration gave ECOtality $126.2 million in taxpayer money in 2009 for, among other things, the installation of 14,000 electric car chargers in five states. Obama even hosted the company's president, Don Karner, in the first lady's box during the 2010 State of the Union address as an example of a stimulus success story.

• Nevada Geothermal Power (NGP). The Obama administration gave NGP a $98.5 million taxpayer loan guarantee in 2010. The New York Times reported in October that the company is in "financial turmoil" and that "after a series of technical missteps that are draining Nevada Geothermal's cash reserves, its own auditor concluded in a filing released last week that there was 'significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern.'"

• First Solar. The Obama administration provided First Solar with more than $3 billion in loan guarantees for power plants in Arizona and California. According to a Bloomberg Businessweek report last week, the company "fell to a record low in Nasdaq Stock Market trading May 4 after reporting $401 million in restructuring costs tied to firing 30% of its workforce."

• Beacon Power. The Obama administration gave Beacon — a green-energy storage company — a $43 million loan guarantee. According to CBS News, at the time of the loan, "Standard and Poor's had confidentially given the project a dismal outlook of 'CCC-plus.'" Last fall, Beacon received a delisting notice from Nasdaq and filed for bankruptcy.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. A company called SunPower got a $1.2 billion loan guarantee from the Obama administration, and as of January, the company owed more than it was worth. Brightsource got a $1.6 billion loan guarantee and posted a string of net losses totaling $177 million.

And let's not forget Solyndra, the solar panel manufacturer that received $535 million in taxpayer-funded loan guarantees and went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook.

Bush gone...find a new kicking boy!
I would ask .....why did you not know about security in Lybia? Is your staff so slack that they do not tell you what is going on? Timing of Clinton's admission is suspect.
I know your jobs numbers look better...But, how will you help those who have given up on the job market?

Things were going just fine until the Congress and the Senate were both controlled by a Democrat majority beginning on January of 2007.

Here is a nice video of Barney Franks denying that we were heading into a crisis and subsequently knocking down numerous legislature efforts to regulate Fannie and Freddie.

Frank you must be delusional to think a 30-40 year-old fighter could compete with new age fighters.

Using 11/2007 is a pretty good timeline to use considering that the Democrat majorities in the Congress and the Senate started on January of 2007.

California is rated as number 30 in education and Georgia is rated as number 27 Franky...

http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/

800K jobs were being lost each month one year after the Senate and Congress had a Democrat majority.

Franky thinks we should borrow more money from China to pay for Big Bird.

It is not a taxing problem, it is a spending problem.

Actually, Frank, fewer people working today than when he took office...BLS

The smarter the state, the more likely it'll vote Democrat.

And take action on killer drink sizes or mother of newborns selection of breast or formula milk for their child...

The nanny state, its "change" you can believe in.

@Jennifer Hudson
Jennifer I was replying to Andrews's remark about Solyndra.That why I put @ Andrew Blawat.Of course,a little history about the same policies proposed by Romney never hurts,

Bush was in office for eight years, more than enough time to create problems. Everybody loves bringing up Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, so why not George Bush? And I really don't listen to what a politician says they are going to do if elected. What they want to do and what they are allowed to do are two things altogether. Be more concerned about the Congressmen and Senators who have more pull than the President, who have the power to agree or disagree with an idea.

Hey, "Jennifer Hudson", we'll stop talking about Bush's screw ups just as soon as the republicans pay back his debt.

Bush's debt? It was the debt created by the Democrat majority Senate and Democrat majority congress that was in place January 2007 until January 2011

"What they want to do and what they are allowed to do are two different things altogether" Pam J

As in Obama's Dream amnesty?

Refusing to prosecute officials and employees of the MGov for having and using our voter registration forms? And those who provide them?

Shipping arms to Mexican gangsters?

You live in the past.

Welcome to 'corporatist' government.

Now coming to a neighborhooh near you.

Georgia ranks better then California:

http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/

Hey they sounded better than crystal radio sets...
The original GREEN audio device

You must be talking about this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BpgLYryI8g

Oldtimer - Where did you come up with that? Georgia is last in everything good and first in everything bad? Chicago public schools and the surrounding suburban schools are a ton better than Georgia's!

Is that why Georgia ranks higher than Illinois in education?

Source: http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/

The economy was just fine until we had Democrat majority Senate and Democrat majority Congress in January 2007.

"How exactly do you think President Obama was supposed to fix everything Bush did in 8 years".

I never expected Obama to do anything different than he has. That's why I didn't vote for him in 08 and won't vote for him in 3 weeks.

Disgusting parent, then you should understand if it takes Romney a full term to fix everything Obama intentionally screwed up and a second term to get us back on track.

Please tell me you aren't really a parent. If so, are your children old enough to know how bad you are screwing their future with you election choices?

Pres Obama was the one who himself stated early on if he didn't get unemployment down, he would be a one term president ...

Therefore it behooves each of usto do what we can to help him keep his personal goals intact...

Thank God for you, "disgusted parent", you and a couple of others are the only SMART PEOPLE on this entire page. What a huge, heaping pile of uninformed individuals gather here. Scary, the republican voters who do not have a CLUE what is really going on. They only know what they heard on Faux News and YouTube.

"They only know what they heard on Faux News and YouTube."---3dognigtshift

So you are told to think.

If in 2007 "What George Bush has done in eight years is took a credit card from bank of China and run up four trillion in debt and left it for your grand kids that's unpatriotic" B.H.O So if four trillion in eight years is unpatriotic. Someone please tell me what six trillion in four years is? Criminal perhaps?

Andrew, LOVE it!!!
I cannot count the number of Romney/Ryan signs/stickers I saw today. It's like they all popped up overnight. The Dems are running scared! That's what happens when you are overconfident, aka their golden child, just can't lose (or can he?).

"Uninstalling" Here's the Best of Patch this week ...

The only thing missing is the banner that states:
We're sorry for any inconvenience, The Democratic Party would like feedback to continually improve our offerings, would you like to report this incident? Yes or NO?

Hat Tip before.... ROFLWAA

Watching the debate I've seen active listening carried out to a new level DESPERATE Listening, the pres was leaning SO far forward on a number of occasions, if a sudden breeze would have blown - I seriously believe he would've toppled over.

This "uninstalling Obama" software must have been outsourced to China, its stuck.

And Pres. reagan did it with only slightly smaller deficits.

Well said Tammy! Well said. There are some that will vote for Obama because he claims to be Democrat. They are not at all concerned for their future, obviously. I am sick of paying more for groceries, gas and insurance and if Obama gets re-elected, it will be worse, much worse! I hate paying a lot for insurance. This is the first time in my life I have had to pay extra doctor bills. I the past, my copays covered everything and now I just paid off 2000.00 in doctor bill! I could have better used that money! I want my cut that Obama promised me! I can't believe there are people that still believe he will do what he says when he has done the OPPOSITE!

Congress is the one who spends money but they rather blame it on Bush.

Bush is easier to spell - less letters.

@Tammy Osier
Because it's an attempt to rewrite history and is an absurd comment.

Uhhhh, Tammy, we're you watching a different debate? I personally witnessed Romney get his a$$ handed to him!

"..we're you watching a different debate? I personally witnessed Romney get his a$$ handed to him!..."---3dognightshift

With Obama's taking responsibility for the Libyan debacle, but, with the collusion of the so-called moderator, nullify even that lip-service for having called the attack, an 'act of terror'---by 'protestors incited by the Movie'--rather than 'organized terrorists', I saw Obama hand his ass to the country.

The how and why of that moderator having "the transcript," btw, and injecting herself into the debate at the behest of Obama, should be a matter immediate investigation.

Well listening to Pres Obama himself talk as if deficit spending actually matters and that hiring teachers doesn't stimulate the economy, Romney was just channeling our own Brian Crawford's flat out disbelief...

It was awesome! He didn't like the way the debate was going, and watching him run out of steam and start stammering like a little kid who didn't get his way and was on the verge of tears was pretty hilarious. Imagine him as your president... As soon as another country did something he didn't like, he would want to bomb them into oblivion, then when the Dept of Defense advised against it he would stomp around and kick the desk and pout. What a spoiled, rich bully!

Romney did blanch in disbelief when Obama---with the collustion of the moderator no less---stooped as inconcievably low as he did to excuse himself from the responsibility he had just claimed to assume for the Libayn debacle.

So did I.So would anyone decent.

And it did effect Romney's going after Obama on Fast and Furious.

But, as the polls are indicating, after the media whitewash subsided, people are thinking for themselves.

I wonder just how many early-voters for Obama now regret their haste.

Yep, you sure are, sportsfan. Clearly you weren't paying attention.

@3dognightshift
I agree and the rich kid also violated the agreed upon debate rules (5A) to not address each other directly.To the plutocrats the rules don't apply.Romney also tried to bully Candy.

Candy Crowley was shilling for Obama which violated te rules of the debate that agreed on.

Obama : "Can you say that lie for me again a little louder, Candy?"

'I agree and the rich kid also violated the agreed upon debate rules (5A) to not address each other directly.To the plutocrats the rules don't apply.Romney also tried to bully Candy."

Obama started that when interfering with Romney protesting the moderator for Obama speaking out of turn at almost the onset of the debate.

Romney had to do it before during the first debate where the moderator, Leherer agreed.Such was not the case with this so-called moderator wth this debate.

And, was called a "bully" even then by the talking heads.

Romney was standing up for himself just as anyone would have had to do.

You really shouldn't have a "Vote for Obama" sticker on your chest when "Roll Over for Obama" is apt.

And I am ashamed that you are an American. I didn't particularly care for Bush, but I would never have stooped so low as to call him names like that.

Don't turn blue holding your breath.

Maybe no repercussions from the libtard MSM but repercussions at the polls. Gallup has Romney up by 6 now.

Bush just pushed and pushed and we got two wars. Our young folks are dying, today. What has it cost this country, it's citizens and the families of our troups?
. Go drones and covert action. Get our kids out of there.
Let's not put another war monger in there. Let's save our money for Seseme Street.

Wow lynda, you seem to have it all figured out. "Bush just pushed and pushed". George W. Bush was in office less than 9 months when America was attacked by scum of the earth Muslim terrorists. Nearly 3000, innocent, American Citizens died on September 11, 2001. REMEMBER THAT or were you asleep that year? Even Obama pushing and pushing couldn't get his health care debacle passed in 9 months. After the 911 attacks, both Republican and Democrats voted to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unlike Obama, Bush waited for the approval of congress before randomly attacking another country.

lynda? Why the hell don't you do some research and come back like an educated grown up before spewing your Bush hatred? Does $16,187,000,000,000 mean anything to you? I didn't think so. It means nothing to Obama either. When Obama finishes his second term, the number will look more like $21,400,000,000,000.

Grow up!

"So glad to have a man who calls it like it is. Bush was always afraid to challenge democrats."---Tammy

When Obama had the gall to try bluff Romney and he public with his taking "offense," the so-call moderator had the further gall to stop Romney from replying which he was ready and raring to do.

That moderator even had the gall to reprimand Romney for Romney changing Obama's stated "public lands" to "federal" as if Romney was at fault.

Worse dictating to Romney that "Fast and Fuious" was off topic to the question regarding automatic weapons---even though the original question had not specified that it was specific to U.S. schools only.

Intrade is full of foreign people. They do not accept American Credit cards or American Debit Cards. The only way for Americans to participate is to send a cashiers check or a personal check to them.

Andrew, So 'foreign people' are incapable of functioning in a free market? If you see a flaw in this system then you are about to reap an amazing profit. If you think this election is even close, then put all your money into an account and bet on Romney to win. You'll be rich and teach us all a lesson. Otherwise, enjoy Obama and the new Senate on election day.

Mr Smyth, Obama first let an American movie-maker, exercising his Right of Free Speech, take the blame for the Libyan debacle and all the deadly riots to follow so that the American had to go into hiding to protect himself.

Then Hillary, and then (with the help of a moderator no less) even Romney for even beginning to call him out on it.

Obama had said that he had even found it "offensive" that he, who has to receive the casualties, would have done so under the false premise that they were killed by protestors made irate by an American---even American fundamentalism---when that is exactly what he did and continued to do.

Obama is unworthy of being an American much less America's President.

a new president is gonna save you and your family? wow, thats a really crappy plan.

Candy had to retract her false statement protecting Obama's LIE. Afterwords, Crowley had to dig her way out of lying for Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=athcyCTnTTs

News agency CNN reported on September 20th that the White House characterized the September 11th attack in Benghazi, Libya as terrorism "for the first time." This report, published over a week after the attack, contradicts the assertion by Barack Obama -- and CNN's own Candy Crowley -- that the President first made that assessment one day after the attack. Obama and Crowley made this claim in tandem during Tuesday's town hall debate against Governor Mitt Romney.

Typical Democrat Liars!

http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2012/10/candy_crowley_backtracks_her_butt_in_after_debate_admits_romney_was_actually_right_on_libya.html#.UH5Jq8HDlfg.facebook

@Sean
When your guy loses attack the monitor, Candy Crowley.Romney tried hard to bully her and she stood her ground.

@George, after Candy tipped her hand during the debate that she was favoring one candidate by arbitrary time-keeping and similar means, the non-favored fellow had to deal with her as well. If moderators are supposed to be neutral and keep everything on an even footing, Candy missed the mark; by becoming a combatant in the exchange, *she* made herself a legitimate target for return fire.

Obama : "Can you say that lie a little louder, Candy?" Candy shilled for Obama when his back was to the corner.

"* On Benghazi, she seconded Obama’s false statement about how he’d called the attacks acts of terror the day after the assault (to which reporters in the audience cheered).

It was Candy all the way."

Why is she so reminiscent of Sotomayor?

"When your guy loses attack the monitor, Candy Crowley.Romney tried hard to bully her and she stood her ground."--George

Despicable non-sense.

Crowley was suppose to have been a moderator.

Yet she intrjected herself into the debate.

Tell us George, when neither candidate was supposed to know the qestions, how is it she just happened to have a "transcript" for an answer---as deliberately disingenous and damaging as that answer was?

She even delivered it when asked for it by Obama!

From beginning to end she was NO moderator.

Probably arranged by Holder.

Read the transcript because you are way off as usual

Don't you libtards vote for Harry Reid who is Mormon? In fact Harry Reid is the HEAD of senate for Democrats.

FYI it has nothing to do with him being black. For the love of God, stop playing the race card all the damn time. Who is it that perpetuates racism? He needs to go because he has run this country into the ground and God help us all if he gets re-elected.

WOW Ben Stein. You reckon? Those with common sense and love of Freedom in this country have been worried since 2008. That worry won't be going away anytime soon due to Obama "Transforming The United States of America". In other words, continuing to screw things up. Worried? You bet your ass we are worried. You shou;d be too.

It is frustrating, absolutely. The question I ask myself is this: are you, your friends and family better off today than in 2008? How many people can honestly say that they are? It is interesting to talk about social issues, but let's face it...where are the jobs??? As someone who has voted both Rep. and Dem., my vote will be for the guy I think is best qualified to lead the US out of this mess, someone pro business/economy. We are voting Romney/Ryan 2012.

Pete, one of the best posts of the morning!

AMEN!

Is it racist when multiple blacks go on national tv and/or the internet & say they are proud to vote Obama ONLY because he's black? Just wondering if that falls into the bigot category?

Your comment is wrong on so many levels!!! That's the NANNY STATE mentality of all the Dems. and why we will be voting Romney/Ryan this time. Do you really think when I was in college that I ever though the govt. should provide my birth control or in any way force my employer to cover it? No, I put my big girl panties on & got it mySELF! It's called personal responsibility! Folks like you are what's wrong with the US today & why people feel so desperate for change.

Protect? As in the $3+ trillion dollar unpaid bill from the two recent wars? Two mistakes that we will be paying for for a long time.

Goodness! I truly hope you are not really a parent, as it is obvious you need a few courses in anger management.
BTW, I don't watch Fox News and I have never heard anyone in any church I've been to endorse a candidate.
You really should get out more often!

snore...

I did watch the press conference, uncut and not clip together, not through youtube or Fox, maybe you should too. Of course narrow minded people only want to hear what they want noT the truth. Check fact checker for yourself!

He said "no acts of terror" He used the world ACTS which is plural not singular and terror is not a synonym for terrorism.

Read it in context:

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

NO ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

Fact check: Romney was right:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/from-video-to-terrorist-attack-a-definitive-timeline-of-administration-statements-on-the-libya-attack/2012/09/26/86105782-0826-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html

Just so I understand Andrew,

So, is it your position that , while speaking about the act of terror in Bengazi and lamenting the loss of Americans to an act of terror Obama wasnt referring to the act of terror that caused him to be speaking on an act of terror because he didnt refer specifically to the terrorist act as an act of terror, even though he did?

That's what your going with ? Really?

Care to tell me why the timeline for the t word matters? Never mind, I've heard enough nonsense today.
Interesting though , with all the facts and figures and questionable statements on both sides this is the point you wish to attempt to argue.
Good luck with that

The point is that Obama did not call Benghazi terrorism for a good 14 days. Instead he perpetuated the lie that the diplomat was killed due to a Youtube video that rubbed Muslims the long way.

Pretty defunct in the brain if you can turn "No act of terror" into "an act of terrorism"

Good Times story on just this matter:

http://nation.time.com/2012/10/16/when-no-acts-of-terror-actually-means-this-act-of-terror/?iid=pf-main-mostpop2

He said "five"--which was a gross underestimate.

"...for President Barack Obama to brand the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya a terrorist act..."

Pointedly not "terrorism"---by organized terrorists.

"THE FACTS: Obama is correct in saying that he referred to Benghazi as an act of terrorism on Sept. 12, the day after the attack."

Liar. He pointedly said "of terror" (not "terrorism") by protestors incited by a movie---NOT---organized "terrorists" who would never have thought that Obama and Clinton would then incite the Muslim world with their false claim of an unknown film being responsible much less enflame Americans for their sacrificing even our Right of Free Speech to their merely political ambitions.

"From the Rose Garden, he said: 'No acts of terror..."

Pointedly: "terror"---not "terrorism."

I was shocked to hear him say it.

"But others in his administration repeated for several days its belief that the violence stemmed from protests over an American-made video ridiculing Islam."

"But others.."? Liar: It was Obama's speech in the Rose Garden that---as it was meant to--- CONFIRMED (or even then attempted to)---the murders to be an act of "terror" by "protestors" becasue of "a movie" that he even apologized for.

This is the President of our country!

"Also, don't forget that Obama is hiding behind Hillary's skirt on this issue."

Then the upstart moderator's.

Obama responded to David Letterman on the time it took for the administration to tell Americans the truth.

Obama actually said he was/is "sending the Muslim world a message that they have to help protect Americans."

Didn't even have the deceny to thank a militia of the Libyan government for getting the survivors out!

BTW, just prir to the last debate Hillary, who had again confirmed taking responsibility---blame (for Obama)---was asked just why the failure.

She actualy replied she wasn't going to play "the blame game"---to in effect nullify the responsibility just claimed.

Even then foreshadowing the kind of responsibity Obama would take: the blameless kind.

"Check fact checker for yourself!."---disgusted parent

You mean fat check.

"So, is it your position that , while speaking about the act of terror in Bengazi and lamenting the loss of Americans to an act of terror Obama was't referring to the act of terror that caused him to be speaking on an act of terror because he didnt refer specifically to the terrorist act as an act of terror, even though he did?"

Obama trivialized the murders by claiming the attack to have been an "act of terror" by protestors incited by a movie.

He was telling Americans that we would not tolerate attacks even by even ordinary Muslims incited by a movie (which, like everyone else, they had never even heard of before) while, all along, that was not the case.

Why? Because the truth would diminish his chance for reelection.

Day after day Clinton and Obama's spokesmen made this claim which, if lying to Americans was not enough, was also being broadcast worldwide, inciting thousands of Muslims to engage in deadly anti-American protests because of the movie that they essentially only heard about from Obama and Clinton.

Day after day. Obama and Clinton stuck to their tale no matter the daily destruction to property and life; and it didn't subside, prior to even the first debate, until French news stations started broadcasting the truth, despite Obama's and Clinton's continuing claim, that the attackers were not or ever potestors and instead a uniformed terrorist group that had crossed over into Libya from Egypt.

But Obama, Clinton and the DNC are "compassionate".

And their political ambitions self-less.

And, of course, our American reporters?

How honest! And informative!

Raddatz. Crowley.

Right?

"ActSSSS of terror" referring to 911...still talking "video" inspired violence days later. You are hearing what you want to hear.

@disgusted parent
One important fact not mentioned is that the companies don't have enough equipment to drill , they are at capacity.This is the real reason drilling is down not a lack of drilling land.

That is a lie. The production was decreased and here is the government document that proves it:

http://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/federallands/pdf/eia-federallandsales.pdf

George if they was no equipment than how did they increase drilling on public land?

Drilling has indeed increase on private lands, says IE, particularly in the Bakken Shale of North Dakota. But oil production from federal lands is at a nine-year low. The graph to the left shows oil production from private and state lands (the red line) versus production from federal lands (the blue line). Private success has increased sharply since the President took office in 2009 but production from federal lands has declined.

http://www.realclearenergy.org/charticles/2012/03/19/ier_disputes_presidents_claim_of_increased_output_from_federal_lands.html

David - I hope they find oil in your neighbors yard....Would you like them to drill every where? How about in the middle of Stone Mountian park, Turner field, your childs school yard, or maybe your church parking lot?

David - You just proved a point. You read and hear only what you want. I never said oil in your yard! You wouldn't want it then, because it wouldn't benefit you! All about yourself, typical!

Oil rigs are not under ground. And by the way, do you know whay mineral rights are?

http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/FreePubs/pdfs/ui394.pdf check into this David. How exactly did you benefit from a natural gas rig in your neigbors yard?

We had more crude oil and more natural gas production in 2003. Nice try on the lie.

Source: http://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/federallands/pdf/eia-federallandsales.pdf

I recognize sarcasm, but all I see is stupidity. The auto companies have all paid back the money that the government gave them. I guess you would have rather had them go bankrupt and millions of jobs be lost. Not just auto workers by the way, truck drivers, factory workers, car dealership workers, towns all over would have folded up! Look at the whole picture!

David~ Research it! Not hard to do. But you know I am right that's why you have resorted to name calling. And I know I am not stupid, I can think and research things for myself!

@ disgusted parent
You are correct but Romney as tried to put a positive spin on his blunder.

@David: "I haven't called you any names...yet."
And you won't. I've already had to delete some comments (not from you, David) where the conversation devolved from debate of the issues into personal attacks on other posters. We love spirited debate on Patch, but personal attacks will not be tolerated. It's tough to police a thread this active, but we try to keep an eye on things as best we can. So here's my speech to everyone: Don't make it personal. Debate the issues, but bear in mind our terms of use, which you can read by clicking the link at the bottom of the page. We'll try to keep an eye out for violations and delete as necessary. Thanks to everyone for contributing to the debate.

You have called me names, you called me stupid. Do you recall this "I can understand now why you easily see stupidity. Its in the mirror everyday." Resort to name calling when you know you are wrong.

To be exact: GM’s December 31, 2011 annual report shows General Motors of North America accounting for 98,000 of the 207,000 GM jobs worldwide. But 12,000 of these jobs are in Canada and 11,500 are in Mexico. Accordingly, GM has 74,500 jobs in the United States and 122,500 abroad, even after Obama’s touted surge in Detroit jobs. Almost two thirds of GM’s jobs are in other countries.

GM’s outsourcing is not a slip. GM clearly states that foreign investment and outsourcing of jobs are an integral parts of its growth strategy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/08/12/outsourcer-in-chief-obama-of-general-motors/

Why should we bail out a car manufacturer who outsources 66% percent of its workforce to other countries?

Obviously the social wins over the fiscal for you. That is a shame. I have multiple friends whose husbands have lost 6 figure jobs that will never return under Obama, he even said so last night during the debate that many jobs will never come back. I want someone who is hopefull for the future of the US, not already accepting our defeat.

Lissam- My husband took a 40 % pay cut under Bush! I understand where you are coming from, not the middle class of course, you are worried about paying your fair share. You might have to pay more taxes. Those jobs that won't come back were sent overseas by Bain capital. Research what Bain Capital does, that's what Romney will do he. Buy up control of a company, strip it down to nothing, dump employees, take everything you can from it worth anything, and then bankrupt it. Yep he will do that to us all within a couple of years. My husband worked for a company that Bain capital worked it's magic on. Check out what Bain capital is doing to another company in the midwest. Is that what you want for your country!?

Staples is just one of Bain capitals investments. Check into all of them!

I was also head of the College Rep at my school in the 90s. I'm dismayed at the current course of the GOP. It's going to be tough for the GOP to win with a minority of the black, hispanic, gay, and women vote. 'Angry old white voters' are in very short supply. I'll predict that losing the WH and Senate will force a reevaluation by the GOP and hopefully move back to the center. Clinton brought the dems back to the center in the 90s so hopefully Christie might do it in 2016. IMHO of course.

There are 3,621,000 less people working today when compared to November 2007 despite the population increasing by at least 11,000,000.

Presidents policies have very much of an effect on gas prices. For instance if you stop new drilling on federal lands it increases prices.

Here is Nancy Pelosi blaming Bush for gas costing $3.07 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjigcS8gN04

I have lived in the same house for 30 years. I have used energy credits, and goverment grants to up date and go more energy efficient. I am total electric., My bill is less today that it was 30 yrs. ago. It is lower by $100 or more.

Isn't this someone trying to claim that they know Romney's policy better than Romney? LOL!!! That is SO FUNNY!!!

He also said he would cut taxes on captial gains, investment income, and inheritence taxes. Now how many people in the middle income level can live off their captial gains, investment income or inheirtance? Very few, you have to be wealthy to do that. Thats cuttling taxes for the wealthy.

Heaven help you! Try checking out Fact Checker. This comes from fact checker. And made research how Congress estimates the impact of tax proposals. Are you allowed to think on your own or does Fox news and your church do that for you?

The Tax Policy Center is a joint venture of the liberal Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute. Heavy leftist bias.

"In September 1990, The Washington Post reported on the Census Bureau's annual measurement of poverty. Post reporters Spencer Rich and Barbara Vobejda wrote: "Economists across the political spectrum said yesterday the current economic picture could mean an even greater rise in poverty." The Post followed this with two economists: Henry Aaron of the Brookings Institution and Isabel Sawhill of the Urban Institute, two indistinguishable liberals."

Source: http://archive.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp

Only the uninformed use fact checkers to base their decisions. If you shop around you can certainly find a "fact checker" who supports your position

Yet you try to blame the GOP because they want to decrease spending...

Yep - Romney took a beating!

@Guy: What is CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC saying? Just saying....

Let's put it this way - If Fox News broadcast sports, they'd show the Superbowl result in September...

The moderator backtracked about Obama's Benghazi statement.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/10/17/cnn%E2%80%99s-candy-crowley-mitt-romney-%E2%80%98right-in-the-main%E2%80%99-about-libya/

Well Guy. It means both candidates made strategic points on their positions.It means the moderator misspoke and interjected on Obama's behalf. Which she recanted (AFTER) the debate. That's what it means to logical thinkers. Unlike those who get a thrill up their leg every time the O speaks.

How about telling us about Obama's budget? Been waiting about 4 years for that one...

It is called fact checker, not vote like my church tells me to. These are the facts, look them up! If you really want the truth you would and your head would probably spin when you see the lies Romney has told!

I think Mitt Romney's comment about having 2 parents has put our friend over the edge!

So easily influenced on your vote?

Lissam- How exactly would Mittens comments about having two parents put me over the edge? Typical Repulican tactic, don't talk facts, change the subject to something that doesn't make sense, and call names? You really do make yourself look uninformed. And your church won't come right and say vote for Romney, they would loss their tax free status, theytalk the spin and smoke and mirror talk that you all listen too. By the way I am not a Baptist, I am Catholic and my church doesn't believe in a womans right or for me to take birth control......but I have my own mind so I make my own choices.

Disgusting parent, you have a lot of issues and you clearly don't mind sharing them on the internet. Stop watching Dr. Phil and get some real help.

I can assure you my church does not tell me how to vote because if that were the case I'd have to vote for Barack Hussein Obama and no way in hell that will happen. My church has two very left wing pastors

Well said!

Bravo! Forward and disgusted parent. The reasonable folks looking at the Patch comments will clearly understand what you are saying and will be influenced by your perspectives. You have much more patience than I do dealing with the RNC spinners. Thank you.

Gallup- Romney up by 6 ;-)

Ahem!!

whats wrong with socialism?

"whats wrong with socialism?"

The same with what's wrong with politicians, and not the people, owning the businesses of a nation.

NGW... you didnt REALLY post that ridiculous bit of internet flotsam did you? You are aware that you can actually check this stuff out and verify facts before spreading falsehood and displaying a supreme lack of knowledge , right?

Here, let me help you . You must not be aware that Executive Orders are sequentially numbered and have been dating back to Lincoln's presidency>
For the record Obama has issued 137 Executive orders to date . GW Bush issued 290 during his tenure and St Ronald Reagan issued 380..

That's assuming that facts actually matter to you ..
Have a nice day

A searchable source for everything and anything you want to know about executive orders http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
Please return your tinfoil hats to the bunker and go back to Derpcon 4

Apparently you don't know humor when you see it Grant. Sounds like you're only one wearing tinfoil. Damn it takes all kinds I suppose. Back to your mama's basement.

Rex,
I'd love to believe that the intent was to be humorous, unfortunately I find it difficult to believe. In any case , hopefully adding actual facts to the discussion will be helpful for someone

Have a nice day

wow, what a stupid post... are you Rupert Murdoch?

You know, he did manage to pass some of his bills early on. Then he hit the brick road know as Congress. Until both houses and the President decide to work for the people of this great country, we are sunk. And I mean that for both sides of the fence.

And the sad thing is, someone, somewhere in the media, actually thought it was important to run a story about a reality-show toddler's endorsement of a candidate!

Pandering know no bounds...........

But Lindsay Lohan is endorsing Romney. What to do?...

http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/10/17/irrelevant-presidential-endorsements-romney-might-have-lindsay-lohan-stacey-dash-obama-has-honey-boo-boo/

Lohan shifts it back to even...keep arguing people...

But the real point is that all of these little fish add up to a REALLY big monster. All of the garbage needs to be cut from the budget.

You pretty much lose creditbility when you can't spell Israel.....

Bush increased drilling and gas prices went down. We produced more oil on federal lands in 2003 than we did last year.

Everything started to implode right after we had a Democrat majority in both the Senate and the Congress (January 2007)

You check the facts, then you use common sense and make your own decisions. Just because I don't like to be lied to and listen to peoples BS doesn't make me a liberal. And please no matter who is the President, please show some respect, His name is President Obama.

DP..he's a man who happens to be the president....he's not royalty. Respect is earned. It doesn't come with a title. As I see it, he hasn't earned the respect of half the nation. That's why he's fighting for his life to get re-elected.

DP is talking about respect for the office, not respect for the person. Disrepect for the office of the President of the United States is disrespect for this country, not surprising coming from tea baggers though.....

3dognightshift
Well said!
Steve also needs to work on his spelling.

If you had a clue you would realize that presidents don't make legislature. Tell us all what happens when you get a Democrat majority in the Senate and the Congress...like January 2007

Its spelled Obama by the way and it starts with President.

And that is indeed the problem, BECAUSE his performance can get NO better...

...........and thein lies the problem Mr. Crawford....that's all you need to know.

How about separating what we got from federal land as that was what Romney was talking about. We had decreased production of oil on FEDERAL land.

http://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/federallands/pdf/eia-federallandsales.pdf

3dognightshift...you are a breath of fresh air in this land of hillbilly teabaggers....

Herbert Hoover was also a businessman. W. Bush was the first president with an MBA.

How'd that work out for you?

Bush did just fine until we got a Democrat majority in the Congress and the Senate on January of 2007.

David Stockman? LOL!!

How David Stockman Became Democrats' Favorite Reaganite

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/08/how-david-stockman-became-democrats-favorite-reaganite/261121/

Oil production on FEDERAL lands has decreased under Obama.

Source: http://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/federallands/pdf/eia-federallandsales.pdf

Numerous jobs lost since the Democrats got a majority of both the Senate and the Congress in January of 2007.

Your race card has been denied. Only racists bring race into nonracial issues.

Obama's coal plant lie has been exposed:

http://riehlworldview.com/2012/10/video-obama-lied-ma-coal-plant-didnt-die-he-also-misrepresented-romneys-2003-remarks.html

AB,

COAL PLANTS EMIT MERCURY!!!

You must be aware of the number of waterways in GA (and many other downwind states) where fishermen are warned not to eat the fish due to (coal emissions delivered) MERCURY!

It doesn't matter what extremist blog nonsense you come up with, the evidence is overwhelming.
COAL PLANTS KILL!

So by ALL means let CHINA burn it all...

Please unplug from the internet now UNLESS you confirm before connecting your PC its power is coal free

Does anyone have a running total on the operating cost of the 'do-nothing House' over the last two years (at $60k a minute)?

I really don't think anyone who voted for the freshboys wanted them to spend time doing nothing but photo-ops.

If Senator Harry Reid (D) would have bothered with a budget over the past 3.5 years YOU might not have to ask that question...

How many bridges could have been entirely rebuilt in 4 years if the House had only attended to their job!
Still they revel in bad job numbers and discredit good numbers.
What Country do these guys represent?

Obama was too busy giving foreign countries our stimulus money:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-administration-outsourced-jobs-stimulus-funding

Explain the 30 job bills that the Democrat Senate is blocking.

http://www.speaker.gov/general/nearly-30-bipartisan-jobs-bills-await-vote-senate-more-way

Harry Reid was not the one initiating endless filibusters.

And Harry Reid is not in the 'do-nothing-House'.

@ 3 Dog

How many bills from the Senate are stalled on the House Speaker's desk?

Now total the number of bills from the House of Representatives that are stalled on the desk of Senate Majority Sen Reid...

Which number is larger?

Tax Policy Center is a joint venture of the liberal Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute. Heavy leftist bias.

"In September 1990, The Washington Post reported on the Census Bureau's annual measurement of poverty. Post reporters Spencer Rich and Barbara Vobejda wrote: "Economists across the political spectrum said yesterday the current economic picture could mean an even greater rise in poverty." The Post followed this with two economists: Henry Aaron of the Brookings Institution and Isabel Sawhill of the Urban Institute, two indistinguishable liberals."

Source: http://archive.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp

Where is the 'bias' in REAL mathematics?

Of course, adding failed 'supply side' philosophy can ruin anything.

Neither of the two candidates has realistic plans for debt reduction, controlling government spending, saving Social Security and Medicaid, reducing to tax burden, etc.
Check out the Libertarian candidate - Governor Gary Johnson
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

The "plan" is called QE3 forevermore...

Why wonder what interest rates will be IN THE FUTURE if you can just unilaterally set them at 1 percent or less for years? If it works for 3 years - why not 30?

literary genius,

Who was President when gas first reached $4.00?
(Hint, who was President in 2006?)

Im definitely moronic enough to vote for President Obama again.

@
Rick Paul
Google "American Jobs Act"

Hint, which misguided party spent 2009-2010 doing everything possible to derail the real and necessary reforms to our health care delivery system?
For more information, check FEC.gov to see who was receiving the lion's share of contributions from the health insurance industry.

No learning curve for Romney - his past business experiences have proven his record, still trying to find past successes for Obama. The government is a business, we don't need to keep putting attorneys, community organizers, etc. in such a powerful office when they don't know what they're doing. A GOVERNOR has more experience running a government than a Senator or House Rep. Take a look a Obama's record while serving as Senator.

Ummm, Debra. Romney has a law degree from Harvard too. Opps.

James. Too! True, but Romney has a business head and took his education further. Obama lost his license to practice - oops! So did his wife - oops! Romney has proven success, please tell me of a success of Obama's while in the secular arena - oops! by the way, check your spelling which tells me you also need to do more researching on your candidate.

Debra are you really asking what kind of success Obama has had outside the religious (secular) arena? What does that have to do with anything?

@ Harry, where the heck did your question come from. It has nothing to do with the religious arena, inside or outside of it. Your trying to divert a decent argument!

Angryslyvania....thats funny right there...:)

Tammy,
Don't look at RCP in the morning.
It might make you weep.

I don't have anything to look at in the morning. I haven't had a sustaining, full time job for over two years.
I don't blame Obama for me losing my job. I do however blame Obama for crippling our economy. A year ago, I would never have said this but now, I honestly believe that Obama is hosing up our economy purposely. His actions along with his words leave me with no other explanation. In the past year, I have become more educated in modern politics and what Obama does and says he wants are flat out damning to this nation. As a child, my father told me about the struggles during the depression. These people were hurting and had to resort to crappy jobs and growing their own food. I think America today is in denial and we have a rude awakening regardless of who is elected this year. I struggle with the fact that I can't bring myself to pray for this President as I feel he has bad intentions. This breaks my heart. I have been forced to sell items that I wanted to leave to my Grandchildren and it pains me that I will have nothing of value left to leave. Obama seems to me like a typical, self serving, arrogant politician. America can no longer afford such behavior.
I pray that God will have mercy on this great nation and allow us to recover. I do though believe that God will not help us if we do not help ourselves.

God bless America.

Martha, I haven't had a job in nearly three years, but I do not blame the President for that, and believe me, I have every right to blame somebody. This mess started with the housing bust and high gas prices, which started before he was President. Even if Bush was still President, I would not blame him. I don't think Obama has really done anything to cause people to lose their jobs. Blame it on the banks, mortgage companies, and credit card companies.

@Martha Wallace
If you are looking to blame someone look at the do nothing Republican congress holding up Obamas' job creation bill the American Jobs Act.

@David
Harry Reid is in the Senate .The jobs bill is being held up in the Republican dominated House of Representatives where money bill must start.

Exactly. It takes a BIG BOY to beat up on a woman with hardships. I don't know how old Martha is and I wouldn't ask but I am 62 and my parents also lived during the depression. My father died in May, 2008. He wasn't happy with McCain but he warned about Obama. He always had a keen sense about politicians and he never held back his disdain for crooked Republicans anymore than Democrats.

I think some of you people are so full of hatred in your lives that you have no consideration for fellow Americans. That includes your ignorance of another persons experiences and knowledge.

Slow down people. Try to be a little bit compassionate for each other. We are all feeling the heat from this crap. Picking on the elderly doesn't prove or change anything. Damn!

Stephen, Delta is at the ready! Please feel free to book a one-way ticket to Venezuela or the like. We "hillbillies", who were taught not to disrespect our elders for one, would appreciate it!

@Tammy Osier
So happy to see you watching MSNBC you might learn something.Also try John Stewart on the comedy network.

"The Presidnet is intentionally destroying the country"

If you say so stephen

Hey genius. Take some time out and READ. Martha never mentioned Christ or Christianity. ONLY YOU HAVE! Wake up.

Why are you so angry? Are you afraid you may lose your free groceries and cell phone if Obama isn't elected for a second term? I agree. You should go to bed and thank your parents for providing you with meals and a roof.

"The Presidnet is intentionally destroying the country"

Yes, this makes perfect sense. What better way to get re-elected?

Hard to believe this state is voting red with this brilliant logic.

Typical...

"These are the numbers" when your guy is shown to be in the lead. Of course when the other guy was shown to be in the lead it was " these polls oversampled Democrats" or "polls dont matter"

Funny stuff

So what is he Mike? is he a radical muslim? is he a member of Jeremiah Wright's church? Is he an atheist, agnostic, what argument is going to fit you jingoistic response???? So pathetic that when GOP'ers can't come up with real arguments for their candidade that try and tear down the opposition as usual.

We can apply labels and debate character flaws, but when you enter the voting booth, you will be making a choice between run-away spending and an erosion of personal freedoms, (Obama, if you had any doubts) and some semblance of fiscal sanity and the protection of personal freedoms. Spin it any way you want, Obama has a proven track record of out-of-control spending and assaults on personal freedoms. By his own admission, he is dedicated to redistributing income. And anyone with an income above the poverty level is a target. I don't think he's the anti-Christ, I think he's Stalin reincarnate.

I don't care if our President is a Christian or not, but the fact is that a bunch of Democrats are Christians. Most Democrats are not free-wheeling devils who smoke, drink and gamble. We are law-abiding, church-going, have some fun people. Just because you are a Democrat doesn't mean you don't believe in God.

Right Pam J. "We are law-abiding, church-going, have some fun people"

This is obvious with the Occupy Wallstreet scum. The democrat praised the criminals while they attacked police officers, trashed city parks, raped women within their own groups, used drugs, destroyed business, crapped and urinated on police cars. Just the kind of Democrats you would ask over for dinner. Meanwhile Tea Party members who simply want reasonable taxation and government spending are labeled racists.

Gotta love those civil Democrats.

Steve, please notice that I didn't say "all" Democrats. There are "bad" Democrats just like there are "bad" Republicans. But all of you Republicans just want to bunch all of us together. And, granted, I guess we want to bunch all of the Republicans together too. But there are different people in each party. I love this country and I hate that it takes a disaster to bring us all together. Presidential elections tear us all apart. People being mean to each other because they don't agree with them. I doubt if anybody's minds are being changed here.

BStein- I honestly don't know what he is. That's the rub.
For the record, I did not say he is the Anti- Christ. Also, I know a lot of liberals who are better Christians than I could ever hope to be. All I said was that many of the Liberals on this blog seem anti-Christian and it would be easy to conclude that the leader of anti-Christians could, by some, be seen as the Anti-Christ, that's all.
Just making an observation, nothing more.

@Dave Emanuel
That is an extremists statement about our president.
The economic elite (the wealthy few) have pushed through policies that benefit themselves at the expense of the vast majority of working Americans. The campaign to lower taxes on the rich: (The top rate on the super-wealthy was 92% in the 1950's, but only 35% today). The assault on middle class retirement. (85,000 pension plans have been eliminated since 1985). And, especially, free trade and deregulation, which have allowed companies to ship millions of jobs to low wage countries.These are legitimate issues that must be talked about in the context of rebuilding the middle class.

I guess......
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/17/women-including-ex-cabinet-members-rally-around-romney-binder-project/#ixzz29cStvHVz

BStein, where does your wife and daughter work? Why are they making less? I have an idea after reading posts that you leave here but you can't prove that your female family members make less than their male co-workers. If you could, you would have an easy law suit. You reckon that's why it's not being discussed? Because it's BS?

You Got Nothing! Go away.

John B. You can't expect to use Fox "News" as proof and expect credibility....

Rex, the math says 79 cents on the dollar.

Here are some actual statistics from the BLS...

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf

BS..plenty of credibility in the article...just because it's Fox doesn't mean it's not so...except in your liberal optics of course.

So you have no real answer? If employers are only required to pay women 79 cents on the dollar, why would they ever hire men?

Come on. Certainly you can answer this one can't you bstein? What a joke!

BS...wondering if your empathy for equal opportunity/pay is for women in your party only....Let me know if the NY Times in your mind has credibility.......
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/us/sidebar-lawsuit-against-iowa-law-school-pits-activism-against-diversity.html?_r=0

I'm not sure when that happened, but we did have a lot of Yankees moving here a few years ago. We had always been a Democratic state until just a few years ago.

Pam:
What Yankees are you talking about? NC,VA, PA, NY, NJ, OH are all Blue states...or at least have been. What are you saying?

John, exactly. All of the Republicans moved from those states to down here, and the only people left in those states were Democrats. Kind of a simplistic way to put it, but there it is.

I recommend going to Wikipedia and looking at the per capita taxes that the average state citizen spends. We're number 50 there as well. As in we pay the lowest per capita taxes per state. $1,630. In contrast the average person in Vermont pays $4,290. We may be 50 in education but we can a least do enough math to realize a good deal when we see it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_tax_levels_in_the_United_States

Notice that the northern states have a much larger tax burden. I take Georgia over them all. As Lewis Grizzard used to say "if you don't like it here, Delta is ready when you are!!"

One of my best friends moved here from Ohio. She was constantly complaining about things here, so I used to tell her that Delta was ready when she was. She finally quit complaining and actually started becoming "southernized". She's now a more laid-back, fun person than she was.

You must be so proud to say, "Georgia is Republican land", then follow with, "that is why Georgia is number 50 in education..." do you hear what you're saying?

PAM J
The ol Democrats of yesteryear are still very much in government power here in GA, they just changed Blue to Red flags when it became convenient. The attitudes and underpinnings remain unchanged.

R, it doesn't matter. The state's electoral votes will go to Romney.

Georgia being number 50 in education is a lie. Georgia ranks higher than Illinois and California.

Source: http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/

What is this climate change the left keeps bringing up? Did I miss something. Doesn't the climate change four times a year? I believe we call them seasons.

Well David, one would expect such a lotion to be sold online at owlgore.com.
Best wishes with your search.

3dog I know it was hard to resist all those hallucinogens going around those concerts (in the day) but you should really have practiced restraint.

I'm still amazed when I meet people in Atlanta that honestly believe in creationism. This is still a very red uneducated state (with a blue oasis intown). The political beliefs are as expected.

When the left has nothing (which is usually the case), they blame everyone else as minions of right wing media and attack religion. The last I checked, we are still a free nation and we all have access to various resources of information. I don't speak for everyone but I personally do not take notes from the AJC or Faux and Friends. I certainly give no credence to anyone who claims to get a tingle running up his leg after listening to Obama speak. Nor do I condone moron, wife cheating liars like David Letterman or big mouth woman abusers like Bill Maher.

I find it weak to accuse some of being total scum for their beliefs while excusing others for idiotic actions. I admit that I am bias but if you are not, it's possible that you are indifferent. I choose to make an effort toward saving this nation.

The reason we are 48th in the nation for education is because of the extremely high percentage of welfare types who, by they way, vote Democrat, for obvious reasons.

I'm amazed at the seemingly unbounded amount of condescension expressed by those claiming to be intellectually superior...

@puppyNS....your self proclaimed superior intellect had to afford you the insight to understand Georgia was a red state....and now this small blog sampling has deterred you from moving your business here because you would be surrounded by idiots....laughable....and less than truthful...but thanks for the Benghazi spin......

Bigot? So you feel that you are somehow superior to the general population here? Stay where ever you're at.

Bless your heart! Please do us all a favor & stay where you are. What on earth would your town do without someone as intellectually superior as yourself?

Does that include corporate welfare too? i.e. - Last year GE paid no income tax and received $2B in subsidies. I'm for eliminating both kinds of welfare.

Prez Obama has that covered His labor czar is GE's CEO.

You know, the guy whose medical division sends operations jobs to China, gives new meaning to "OH YES we CAN" doesn't it?

How about the other 30% of the F100 companies that don't pay any tax? Is that also welfare?

Funny thing is, all Republicans I know say the same thing about the Democrats....they have lost their ability to think and have a civil conversation because all they do is scream that Obama is the best thing since sliced bread yet you challenge them on what he's done and all they can say is Obamacare. Because of course demoracts want to be taken care of while Republicans can care for themselves.

lol@ puppyNS.....a post worthy of a Darwin Award...

Please cite who said that 3 : republican candidates for president recently said publicly, the uninformed and uneducated will be the voters for the republican candidate.
Speaking of uneducated and uninformed
http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981714829
http://washingtonexaminer.com/who-won-the-debate-jimmy-kimmel-interviews-obama-supporters-before-the-debate/article/2511031#.UIWsr4b8mGI
And since you brought up the most brutally honest truths from a democrats mouth.
The middle class has been buried in TAXES for the last four years!(2012 Bumbling Bidden)
Those words are so rarely used when describing Dems or this administration( honest and truths)

Just vote Obama who has czars on his more recent and current staff that send COMPLETELY functioning divisions overseas and pays ZIPPO in taxes.

"FORWARD" to oblivion, the fundamental change we're all looking for...
Ruling by non-executive order, the closest to a dictator we've seen in a while.

Wanted an overseas incident? I thought that was the guy apologizing for a YouTube video made by a private citizen for what 2 weeks or more AND buying media AD time internationally to do it? Must have been no shovel ready media outlets domestically that needed those stimulus dollars.

Obama, when you absolutely, positively must come in 4th place in a 3rd world competition...

The answer they don't want to give you, the honest answer, the response they're too afraid to say...he has too much melanin.

Your rhetoric is very amusing! LOL

There’s a raffle, when the race card gets played 1,000,000 times, the winner gets a free 2 pass to Disney World…

Winner should come up any second now.

An ambassador and three other Americans MURDERED. Six trillion more in debt.Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt.Fourteen million on food stamps or some form of Government assistance. Shovel ready jobs not so shovel ready after eight hundred BILLION spent on a failed stimulus. Specific enough need I go on I can.

California is responsible for over 30% of all TANF cases.

Said nothing about welfare. Make sure you're addressing the right person.

Why? can't you find your set of crib notes again? (Smiles) or did you misplace them researching the EPA?

President's don't make legislative bills and spend...congress does.

Unemployment from 6% to 4.5% with Massachusetts schools ranked number 1 looks pretty good.

I have, I'll take his any day over what Obama is offering. And thank you, I do research because I don't drink the kool-aide the talking heads offer on TV. Maybe you should put the glass down as some of your comments have had nothing to do with my responses.

We can't, he burned all the papers, deleted all the hard drives and any record of him being there... But I'm sure he left that binder full of women..

You can take your "progressive" (communist/socialism) movement to another country.

The economy sure is WONDERFUL here, why it’s so good that’s why our President sent his preteen age daughter and a few of her school friends to Mexico…

On our dime and then attempted and actually had some of the records removed from the internet under the concern of “security”? The MOST transparent administration ever REALLY?

We should re-elect the President, just to see where he sends his daughters and her friends for spring break NEXT year! (It sure won’t be to lackluster FL.)

The congressional branch of government is comprised of 2 branches the Senate and the House of Representatives. Which side of that equation hasn’t passed a budget and is SITTING on proposals for 3 years now?

Sen. majority leader Harry Reid, the REAL Mormon obstructionist in the DEMOCRATIC do nothing Congress!

union no doubt

So if 7% is a landslide, then you concede that McCain lost in a landslide to Obama?

I would hate to be at your house Andrew on election night. Hide the kids and dog!

Who said 7$ is a landslide? Here I'll repeat myself : "I see a landslide coming!".

Do you need me to explain this statement to you?

George, what would we do without ya? You always have:
-The real facts
-The real sources
-The real polls
-The real spelling of adhominum
Last and least?
-The real President

George, why is it I never see you write any blog stories. We can trust that you will keep it real. Can't we? I'm guessing you have some real prescriptions too. What ya holdin George?

George, I'd hate to ask where you pulled that from, but it sure smells funny.

That looks like the fivethirtyeight numbers by Nate Silver (noted statistician). FYI, in 2008 he predicted 49 out of 50 states accurately and every Senate race. He takes a weighted average of each poll based upon past performance. You better hope his model is flawed this year.

Neat trick George, accuse me of cherry picking and cherry pick yourself.

Gallup: Romney up by 6%

It is a race thing. First off, he's white, by definition:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fedreg_race-ethnicity

Enjoy discovering how folks sneaked in the back door to university using affirmative action back in B.C. (before computers).

Wanna bet? Lots more info coming out about the Obama administrations lie every day on this subject.

Isley, you are not sure because you can not read and understand. That's ok. I don't expect you to be able to distinguish between facts addressed by law and those which you presume to create about me.

Very nice Isley...I'm interested in your views on African American conservatives...what umbrella do they fall under since you have a copyright on definitions? I guess to you they must be UT's?

Isley, answer me this - at what point does Affirmative Action outlive its purpose? Meaning, when does cross over the threshold to becoming discrimination - if someone is qualified for a position or a school or whatever, yet is prevented from being part of it because of his race or creed, isn't that the very problem it is supposed to be preventing?

Quit trying to play the race card.

You must live in Bizarro World